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Welcome to the Husband Material podcast, where we help Christian men outgrow porn. Why? So you can change your brain, heal your heart, and save your relationship. My name is Drew Boa, and I'm here to show you how. Let's go.

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Thank you so much for listening to this recording of the recent special presentation on the future of husband material. First, you'll hear an intro to why husband material exists, what our mission to help men outgrow porn is all about, and how we do that. Then you'll get a quick recap of 2025 and everything that we are celebrating from this past year, followed by two big announcements about the future vision and direction of Husband Material, the kinds of resources we are going to create next, the people we're going to help, and how you can be a part of it. Especially now as we approach the end of the year, Husband Material Ministries is a 501c3 nonprofit organization that can receive fully tax-deductible donations to advance our mission. In this episode, you'll discover how that mission is changing and evolving in 2026. And if you want to support it, go to husbandmaterial.com slash pray or husbandmaterial.com slash give. Enjoy the episode. In case you didn't know, the mission of Husband Material Ministries is to help men outgrow poor and find lasting freedom from unwanted sexual behavior. That's our mission. That's why we exist. And we use a very unique approach, which might be summed up as heal the boy to free the man, because we know that men and women don't get hooked on porn. Boys and girls do. And when we experience sexual triggers and really strong temptation and unwanted attractions and urges and aches that feel overwhelming and irresistible, that drive us to porn, that little boy is showing up and getting activated. Which is why husband material is all about finding those places where we got stuck as infants, school-aged children, teenagers, and even earlier in adulthood so that we can become sexually, emotionally, spiritually mature men of God. This idea of healing the boy to free the man might sound psychological, it might sound strange, but when you can experience this, it is absolutely incredible. It can allow porn to lose its power so that you're not just free from the behavior, but you actually simply don't need those old fantasies and videos and images to regulate your nervous system. This is what we do. And it's incredibly powerful. One of my clients recently wrote me saying, this approach is so different and revolutionary, it actually makes me tear up a little bit to write this. Because this approach finally sees me, my sexuality, my desires, my self-worth, my healing as something good, beautiful, and meaningful. This approach allows me to breathe and live without being squelched by shame and self-hatred. Amen. That's why we're here. That's what this is about. Because unfortunately, so many porn recovery programs are still well intentioned, yet perpetuating purity culture. Cycles of shame, cultures of control, focusing on service-level behavior modification that can ultimately leave you feeling frustrated and exhausted, fighting a battle against yourself. Husband Material, this outgrow porn approach is incredibly life-giving. It's allowed me to be free from internet porn for the past 10 years. And I would love to share more of the stories that we get to hear on a regular basis of men who are finding breakthroughs through this approach. A year ago, we decided to make it a nonprofit so that we can help more men, so that we can expand beyond just the people who can pay for high-quality help. This is a summary of why husband material exists. We're all about changing brains, healing hearts, and saving relationships.

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How do we do that? First, through teaching, podcasts, videos, books, conferences.

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The podcast is our primary place where you get new teaching every week for free. Those who listen to the podcast are invited to join our free community, which is private, now reaching 7,000 members. And it's a place to tell your story, celebrate your wins, process struggles, make friends, and gain momentum on this journey. So many men joining the community lately have said, wow, I'm just amazed at the vulnerability here, the support, the engagement. You know, a lot of online communities can feel like a ghost town where only a few people are interacting. We have a vibrant, healthy community that is increasingly safe. It's increasingly effective at inviting men into the deeper journey. And every six months, we host online conferences. The Porn Free Man is coming up in January. And we also do HMA in a day every summer, where an entire weekend experience taking you into deeper healing and lasting freedom is all free. The teaching is free, the community is free, the conference is free. And then we do Husband Material Academy, a course coaching program, and comprehensive all-in-one online solution, which is$59 a month with discounts and scholarships available, so that we can provide maximum support for minimum cost. The Academy has helped hundreds of men. And it's the hub where we want all of our people to at least try it. Take the course, come to a coaching call, and experience the culture of curiosity and compassion that we're creating. And finally, our retreats, which are also paid yet provide discounts and scholarships. This is what Husband Material does. And it's just been amazing to watch it evolve over the years. Ron says, I can confirm HM is a much better solution to my issues over the purity culture I was a part of. Yeah, me too. I started Husband Material because I wanted to live in a world where Christian men can experience the love we were created for instead of purity culture as the way to approach our issues with porn and unwanted behavior. There are other ministries out there with a very different business model. The level of help you can get at Husband Material Academy with the signature course, the 10 coaching calls per week, the small groups, usually costs at least$2,500 elsewhere, sometimes up to$4,000. And at Husband Material, it's$59 a month. Sometimes I'll hear from guys that what they get at HMA is actually better than a program that they paid thousands for. And our retreats are similar. The dozens of stories of radical transformation continue to encourage me. We're witnessing something beautiful, and we want to keep this free and as affordable as possible. Ben says, no matter what you pay for the HMA retreat, it's worth more than that. Thanks. Nate says the online community has been amazing. I never thought I could experience that level of vulnerability in an online space. It truly is remarkable. Dave says doing the work in HMA and being in the hot seat has brought me incredible healing and the price is so affordable. Let's look back at 2025 because it has been a monumental year, and you might not even be aware of everything that has happened. First of all, Husband Material has now achieved 501 C3 status so that we are completely set up to receive tax-deductible donations, including from donor-advised funds. We're legit. Last year, when we announced Husband Material becoming a nonprofit, we were still in the six-month waiting period to finally get our letter of determination. So I'm thrilled to reveal that we are a nonprofit, just like any other nonprofit that you could donate to. And so much work went into that. A lot of money, a lot of time, a lot of leadership from our board has made that possible. And soon I will tell you why that is so important for our next phase of the vision for the future of Husband Material. My book, Outgrow Porn, was finally published. This book is a version of HMA with stories for men in our community in each chapter, tools from our course for years. Husband Material Academy has only been available as an online course. And with this book, the content is becoming even easier to access for people anywhere in the world. That was a huge focus this year. This year, Husband Material Academy served 650 men. Not only that, we raised up 40 triad leaders, who are all volunteers, men who have experienced the power of changing their brains, healing their hearts, and who want to give back and pour into other students. That is one of my favorite stats to share from this year because it shows that this is not just addition, this is multiplication and truly discipleship. We're not just serving men, but equipping men to serve others. And thank you, thank you, thank you so much to Rich Savoy and his team that has been leading those triad leaders. This year, you all gave$30,691 in financial aid to 75 HMA students from all over the world.

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Romania, India, Finland, Mexico, USA, and Canada, and all six continents.

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It's been amazing to see how borders and currency exchange rates are no longer a barrier for men to get the help they need to grow in self-awareness, self-compassion, self-leadership, to find connection, to heal childhood trauma, to transform their triggers, to understand their fantasies. Like that's amazing. And it's because you all have donated to make that possible. This year, we haven't only worked online. In person, our retreat in Colorado served 120 men, including 25 staff, which is more staff than we've ever had. And I'm really excited that it's no longer just me and a few others, but we have a really solid team that is making that retreat better than ever. For that retreat, you all gave$22,725 in financial aid to 21 men, including some who flew across the ocean from London, Belgium, Poland, Ukraine. We had 18 men come to the retreat from outside the US. And most of these men came for free.

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And the only reason we could do that is because of guys like you supporting them. So thank you.

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And we continued to publish the podcast every week. I continued to engage in the community almost daily, and served a few thousand men at our free conferences. And we're looking forward to the next one. So let's celebrate. And thank God. Because without him, positive material would not exist.

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And ultimately, he's the one who transforms us. All we do is create the space. The best part of Posm Material is all of you.

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So thanks for a great year. What's next in 2026? I've been asking myself this question ever since my book came out.

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I've spent the last few months praying, thinking, talking to people, wrestling, and discerning where husband material will go next.

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It hasn't just been me, it has also been Dr. Doug Carpenter, Rich Savoy, and Henry Brown all collaborating to Dream Big about how we can take husband material even further. The first thing you should know about is our new fundraising platform. We used to pay 6.9% to credit card processing and to our fundraising platform. The new fundraising platform is completely free, which means that every donation goes further. And if you donated in 2025, or you if you have a recurring gift, you don't need to update anything. It's completely smooth. Everything has changed over. And so that's a win that not many of you know about. Apparently, we don't even pay credit card processing fees for new gifts, which is really exciting. And our platform is called Give Butter, in case you're interested. Next up in 2026, we have a new rhythm of two retreats per year. We are coming to Georgia in April and back to Colorado in September, hoping to allow more men to experience the beauty of embodied brotherhood. So that's huge. And we're even talking about expanding internationally for 2027. At this point in time, I have recorded half of Outgrow Porn as an audiobook. And I'm excited to release that audiobook early in 2026 for those of you who prefer that format. And we are leaving Mighty Networks. We have realized that having husbandmaterial.com and husbandmaterial.co has caused problems for people. There has been confusion, especially with HMA subscriptions and cancellations. So we are moving everything to one central platform, which will be at husbandmaterial.com. And this will include a branded mobile app so that you no longer will need the Mighty Networks app, but you will have the Husband Material app on your mobile devices. This might be uncomfortable and difficult because change is never easy. Yet we are confident that this new platform and this new app will be the right choice in the long term. So stay tuned for that. For those of you who like Mighty Networks, sorry. For those of you who don't like Mighty Networks, we have heard your feedback and we're taking it seriously. The new app will start going into effect with the Porn Free Man Conference and the HMA launch in January, and we will completely phase out of Mighty Networks by the summer.

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And that's not all. In 2026, I have a new passion.

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I have experienced a burning warmth in my chest and confirmation from multiple sources that it's time for husband material to come full circle with our direction for the future. When I started Husband Material, I envisioned it as reaching unmarried men who want to save their marriages before they start by getting free from porn so that their wives never have to experience betrayal trauma and so that they can enjoy a porn-free marriage. That's where the name husband material came from. It came from my story of going through pre-engagement counseling with my wife and having the gut-wrenching conversation with her to let her know that I wasn't as free from porn as she thought, and I had certain sexual fantasies that she had no idea about.

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She looked at me with eyes of compassion. And from that moment on, I was more motivated than ever to get to a point where I would be confident that I could keep my wedding vows.

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I wanted to be husband material. I wanted her to never have to worry about secret sexual behavior infiltrating our marriage. And the name husband material has grown and expanded beyond my original vision, because anyone can be husband material. Husband material refers to a quality of character, not to a relationship status. And so we can all become husband material as we become sexually, emotionally, spiritually mature. And yet that original vision has never fully left. I've continued to learn more about what couples go through in discovery, in disclosure, when they are picking up the pieces of a marriage that has been shattered by porn, secrecy, hiding and lying. I've heard horror stories from men about the rigorous yet necessary process of going through a full therapeutic disclosure so that their wives can start to have a sense of safety and finally find out the truth. And it's absolutely agonizing. Extremely expensive. It's painful. It's heartbreaking. And my heart has been to prevent the need for that. Minimize and dismiss their relationship with porn because they imagine that it will disappear once they get married and have regular sexual activity, which may or may not happen. It's a huge issue. Recently talked to a member of our community who does premarital counseling, and he said of the 13 couples that we've met with, 13 have struggled with porn use. And in many cases, both partners did.

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13 out of 13. There are so, so, so many young Christian couples that are oblivious to what's ahead of them. They've never been fully honest with each other. They don't fully know what they're getting into.

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And when they seek help for guidance, support, wisdom, when they want to be challenged and equipped for committing to each other for a lifetime, either this issue is there and it's not being talked about, or it's being brought up with known tools, with no framework, with no proven process for people to go through at this critical moment. I did some research on the existing premarital assessments. Prepare enrich is by far the most popular. Simbis, saving your marriage before it starts, is also an extremely popular option. For both of these assessments, porn is an afterthought. Sexual integrity is more or less assumed. There might be one or two questions about it in their hundred plus question assessment, and then they just move on, skating around the issue, allowing shame and silence to continue to stay in the dark and get infected until one day it could even destroy the relationship. I was appalled to go through facilitator training for one of these organizations and to realize that there was no awareness or priority on sexual recovery as a part of marriage preparation. There is a huge gap. There is a huge need.

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There is a missing piece that tens of thousands of couples are missing. And that missing piece is honesty, vulnerability, being real about your sexual story. What if there was a premarital assessment that asked about porn in detail? That asked about same-sex attraction, that asked about your story, experiences of abuse or abandonment. A story that asked about when you were first exploited by porn.

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And not just an assessment that asked those questions, but provided a space of compassion and connection where couples could actually feel seen, known, and heard by each other prior to deception and discovery and disclosure. So many young Christian men and women think that they've covered all their bases by getting premarital counseling, by going through a process like this, not realizing that they're setting themselves up for a sexual disaster.

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It might be sooner, it might be later.

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But if they could prepare and share and receive care in this area of life, I think it would change generations. And that's why I've decided to create the share assessment. Share, S-H-A-R-E stands for sexual health and relationship evaluation. This will not replace tools like Prepare Enrich or Simbis, but it will come alongside these tools to ask targeted questions, provide pastoral curiosity and compassion, and referrals to places where people can get the help they need to set themselves up for sexual health and relational flourishing, whether they're dating, engaged, or already married, this is something that a man could take, a woman could take, that a man and woman could take together. We want to see people share.

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Honesty is essential. What if this became normal? What if there was a cultural expectation that if you want to marry someone, it's a really important thing to share first, to disclose extremely important details about your sexuality, about your story, about your arousal, your behavior, your recovery. I want to see the culture around premarital counseling change. This will be a powerful way to do it. It'll include free resources, low-cost resources.

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It may include more developed offerings like courses, a directory of facilitators who can help couples share with each other. It may include weekend retreats where young men preparing for marriage intensively focus on this issue. It may include referrals and resources for women and partners. I think my other hope is that more and more women will start to realize what they actually want and what their values are and expect more from their future husbands.

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It may be that the way to reach men before they get married is through their girlfriends who insist that they go through share, a sexual health and relationship evaluation. That's not legalistic, that's not based in purity culture, but that's supportive, full of grace and truth. That's my vision for share. And says sexual integrity is assumed. So insightful.

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Yeah, and it shouldn't be assumed. I think a lack of sexual integrity should be assumed. In this day and age, he says, it sounds like a lot of church leaders have their heads in the sand. Yeah, many of them know that porn is an issue. Many of them are aware of the stats. Yet they continue to counsel couples without directly facing this issue. Because think about it, it's so inconvenient, especially if they've already bought a ring and planned a wedding day. Now to talk about porn and the possibility of maybe needing to delay the wedding or cancel the wedding is something most people don't want to face, the possibility of. Yet that might be what's needed in order to protect both people involved. The heart of share is not to disrupt engagements. It's not to disrupt marriages, it's to save them. It's to save relationships. And that's always been part of the mission of husband material. Changing brains, healing hearts, saving relationships. I think this is a critical piece. Rich says so many Christians are ashamed and feel they need to hide the struggle. Being in the dark is a lonely place. We need each other to share our struggles and experience grace. Amen. And unfortunately, for so many married couples, their marriage is not a place where they can experience that because there has been so much harm, trauma, deception, hiding, lying, secrecy, that couples are in protection mode instead of connection mode prior to marriage, prior to the trauma, prior to all the secrecy. What if we could allow couples to support each other with grace and compassion and care mutually? Wouldn't that be amazing? Wouldn't that be amazing if you could tell your wife, like when I told Rebecca about my struggles, she was not a betrayed partner. And she was able to attune to me. She showed me incredible kindness. And I don't think she would have been able to do that if we had been married and I had been keeping this a secret from her for years. I've talked to a number of men who experience same-sex attraction who have all said that they wish they had told their wives before marriage. I haven't heard a married man who experiences sexual attraction to other men say that he's glad that he waited until after he was married to tell his wife. I mean, this is part of what Cher can do. It can start those conversations that need to happen earlier. Duncan says, it sounds like fostering discussion that creates connection, not shame. Yes, that is critical. This cannot be the kind of survey that you take like a robot, just checking boxes. There needs to be care and compassion woven into the tool from beginning to end. Nate says, this is so good, Drew. I wish that I had this as part of my premarital counseling. I did my best to disclose my sexual brokenness prior to marriage, but I didn't have the tools to do that well. Exactly. I mean, some couples genuinely want to have this kind of conversation. They just don't know how. Or maybe they have had the conversation, but they don't have direction for what to do next, both for the young man and the young woman. Let's change that. Keith says mutual vulnerability within the church should be normal and safe. Amen. Mutual is important because this is not just the guy disclosing to the girl. This is also the girl disclosing to the guy. Especially now, porn use among young women has skyrocketed. The recent research done by Pure Desire Ministries and Barna indicated that up to 40% of Christian women have a relationship with porn.

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And 75% of Christian men.

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I mean, this is no longer just a man disclosing his sexual history. This is going to be mutual. And the training and support needed also should be mutual for both people learning how to care for each other in the middle of this. And that can involve setting boundaries. And that can involve stepping into your power for deciding what your standards are around sexual health prior to getting married. If you ask someone, you know, what would you like to see from your partner before getting married in terms of their sexual health and recovery? In terms of sobriety, healing, in terms of their knowledge, attitudes, behaviors. Most people have no idea. They've never thought about that. Yet it has a huge impact, as so many of you have discovered. You guys who have been through the ringer of deception, discovery, and disclosure are in a perfect position to give back to the next generation in this area, whether through leadership and spreading the word or facilitation for couples, or for giving to this ministry so that we can make it possible. I want something better for the next generation. And I'm convinced that many of you feel the same way. Just like people celebrate pre-engagement counseling and premarital counseling, we should celebrate people having these conversations, even if they're difficult, even if they're messy. My new definition of intimacy is into messy. And this is a tool that would take couples into the mess, but it won't leave them there. We'll provide them with the relational support, the professional support, the guidance, the wisdom, the research, and the path forward that they need in order to truly live up to the saying of saving your marriage before it starts. Dave says something like this would have saved me 35 years of shame and significant damage to my marriage. Chris says, Wishing I could go back in time with an assessment like this. There are several couples I know, some divorced, where the lack of disclosure was so destructive. My heart just hurts reading that.

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It's so painful. It's so devastating. I'm convinced we can do better than pick up the pieces of a shattered relationship.

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We can strengthen the relationship to withstand storms and to be fully open and honest because the worst part of betrayal trauma, according to every expert I've ever read, is the broken trust.

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It's not the behavior, it's not the porn, it's the hiding and lying. It's the distance, it's the secrecy. That's what hurts the worst. Share can change that.

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A member of our community who does premarital counseling reacted to the idea of share by saying, Can you imagine how your marriage and mine would have started out differently with a framework to bring this into the open instead of hiding and lying? That's the vision. And yet, this is just one part of what's next for husband material. Because while getting married is a great milestone and reaching people prior to that is great. We can go even earlier. When I asked the husband material community, at what age do you wish you started sexual recovery? The average age in 115 answers to that question was 14 years old. The average age where men wish they started sexual recovery was 14 years old.

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Yet almost all the ministries I'm aware of are for adults, including husband material. Sure, there are some books and resources for teaching children about healthy sexuality, but teens are being neglected.

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Sometimes it's because they're thought of as too young. They're thought of as being too close to their childhood to really process it. They're thought of as not being intellectually developed enough to really understand things. From what I'm seeing and from what I'm hearing, we have underrated this population.

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Teenagers have often been consuming porn for multiple years. Yet, where are the resources for teens or for parents of teens to be able to intervene earlier?

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To be able to start sex ed earlier, to start recovery earlier, to start healing earlier, to start being honest earlier, to start having community earlier, to start all of this earlier. What if boys could start healing while they're still boys? We say heal the boy to free the man. Well, what if we could literally do that instead of just the boy within us? What if boys could start healing while they're still boys? What if teenagers are more ready for recovery than we think?

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I'm living proof that this is possible because I started sexual recovery when I was 18. I found freedom before getting married.

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The opportunity to start younger completely changed my life. 94% of us wish we started at age 23 or younger. 73% of us wish we started at age 17 or younger. 48% of us wish we started at age 13 or younger. And 21% of us wish we had started at age 10 or younger. Maybe it's time. Maybe we can make that possible for others. Reflect on this question. At what age do you wish you started sexual recovery?

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Changing your brain, healing your heart, restoring your relationships with God, with others, and with yourself, releasing shame, overcoming fear, and taking redemptive risks. For so many of us, we wish we started younger.

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Husband material has reached a number of younger men. They tend to be the exception. Yet whenever they show up to our retreats or HMA coaching calls, the older men invariably seem to encourage them. At some point, usually, at least one man looks at a younger man and says, Man, I wish I had started this process when I was your age.

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And my heart goes out to all of you guys who wish you had started younger.

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While we can't change the past, maybe we can't change the future. So I'm introducing the Start Younger podcast. This will be A more fun relational show co-hosted by me, Dr. Doug Carpenter, and my friend Blake Brinkman, who specializes in student recovery and is just wonderful, even though most of you probably don't know who he is. And we are going to have a weekly show which is designed to serve as a starting point between fathers and sons. We've got Doug, the clinical psychologist with 30 years of experience and the most hilarious stories about sex and therapy and recovery that I've ever heard. And Blake, who's actively working with teens in helping them find lasting freedom from porn. And with my experience in podcasting, I'm excited to bring us together. It's going to be sillier than Husband Material. It's going to be more energetic. It's going to be more free-flowing. Sometimes the Husband Material podcast can feel like taking a course. It can feel very serious. The Start Younger podcast will feel lighter, yet still going into deep topics in a way that is ideal for a younger audience, specifically teen boys, emerging adult men, and modeling for fathers how to engage these topics with their sons. We have had a number of father-son pairs attend husband material retreats, and it has always been incredibly powerful. I want to cry just thinking about it. And the heart of Start Younger is to develop those connections.

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So many of us never got healthy sex education, resources, community, support for years and years.

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Think of how different many of our stories would be if our fathers had learned how to be vulnerable with us, how to connect with us, how to initiate us into masculinity, how to have conversations about things like porn and recovery, emotional connection, gentle and comforting.

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Start younger is about that.

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And as we attempt to start helping people outgrow porn at younger ages, I'm acutely aware that they are not going to be able to pay for it the same way that adult men will. They won't feel the urgency as much. They won't have the financial resources as much. It's going to be a risk. We're going to need help.

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And specifically, we're going to need older men, fathers, grandfathers who believe in this vision to donate so that these younger guys can go through it.

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This will not be funded primarily by teens. I just don't see how that can happen. While husband material has been primarily funded by Husband Material Academy and our retreats, our initiatives to help guys start outgrowing porn younger will primarily need to be funded by donors, by men who want to give back, by men who want to see the next generation start younger. And that's why we need your support. If you're watching the video, you can see this picture of me at the recent husband material retreat where I was literally held up by at least a dozen men. Thank you for holding me up. Thank you for empowering me to follow Jesus and to pursue my dreams and the calling that I believe He's given me.

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That calling is evolving into things like share and start younger, where I don't fully know where it's going to go.

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But I know that I'm ready to take the redemptive risk. And I'm asking for your help. Matt says, I used husband material last year with two 16-year-olds here, and it allowed them to open up so much, and discussions were real. So happy to hear that. Yeah. 16-year-olds are capable of so much more self-awareness, self-compassion, and self-leadership than we give them credit for. They can be vulnerable. They can be insightful. They can be incredibly supportive of one another if they just had the permission and the space and the encouragement to start younger. Ben says, this is wonderful. I wish I had received the sex talk I never got from my dad or uncle growing up. Ron says, I love this. And says, that's great branding. Just so you know, start younger was not the first name I came up with. Initially, I thought about calling it boyfriend material, but there's actually some questionable content already out there under that name. And it just felt like it could be misleading. Even if it doesn't appeal as much to older men, that's okay. We're trying to reach the next generation. Similar to husband material, this name says nothing about porn, which allows you to talk about it a bit more freely and recommend it more openly than something like, you know, the porn-free podcast for teens or husband material junior or something. I don't know. Nate says, yes, as a father of three boys, this is awesome. What if you could listen to this with your boys? What if you could send an episode to them and laugh at the jokes as well as brooch some of the deeper topics? Ben says this is gold. Dave says, I love this vision. Saul says yes. Chris says, a dad at my church is discussing out and grow porn with his teenage sons. Something designed for the purpose will be even better. That's part of the hope of this. Maybe we could create a version of Husband Material Academy for teen boys to go through with a family membership so that their dad could show up to a coaching call with them or their brother could go through the course with them for no additional cost. Because we're not trying to replace the primary role of fathers in sexually discipling their sons. We're wanting to empower fathers to sexually disciple their sons and give sons an opportunity to engage with their fathers about these things. It's just so redemptive. I get so excited about it. Ben says, I can't wait to attend this program together with my future son. We're already talking about having a father-son healing weekend next year. We're holding this with open hands, yet it seems like this dire need is not currently being met. So both in the context of couples and individuals, my heart is to see people enter sexual recovery younger and start younger. Whether that's through resources for teenage boys or for couples who are considering marriage, this is the new direction. Vito says that's quite inspiring. Zidi says that would be healing the boy in real time to free the future men. Exactly. That's exactly it. And to do that, we need your support.

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Here's how you can help. First, would you pray for us? Please, please pray. More things are wrought by prayer than this world dreams of. We've had so many answers to prayer so far. And we need more for these visions to become realities.

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I don't think I could have started Share or the Start Younger podcast five years ago. But now that Husband Material has established this foundation of a unique approach to freedom from porn, we have a community, we have a movement, we have so much more than we had back then. And yet it's going to take a new movement. It's going to take new inspiration, new creativity, and new generosity to make this happen. So will you pray for us? Go to husbandmaterial.com/slash pray to join our prayer and giving newsletter where I give you updates on stories and opportunities and what's next, where I give prayer requests, prayer updates, and more ways that you can support this movement.

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Secondly, would you give to us?

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You can go to husbandmaterial.com slash give. Today, December 2nd is Giving Tuesday. And as we approach the end of the year, if you have year-end giving that you want to devote to an organization you believe in that's doing work that can really make a difference in people's lives, consider husband material. We're not just continuing to do what we've done before. We want to help people start younger. We want to help people share. And to make that possible, we're going to need more financial resources. Last year, you all donated$105,000. While that was wonderful,$62,000 of that money came from three donors. We had no idea whether or not we were going to finish the year in good financial shape. We were praying, and thanks to just a few supporters, our prayers were answered. But this year, we want to do more than just cover expenses because a couple people were really generous. We want to create a solid financial foundation. We want to have a predictable base of recurring support that allows us to stop focusing on just making our budget and create something new and expand to have more staff to serve you all and make these new projects possible. If all we do is raise what we did last year, we can't do that. And that's why this year we need$150,000.$100,000 to cover program expenses, just like last year, and to be able to give financial aid to all who ask. That would be the same. What's new is an extra$50,000 to build a strong base so that we can launch new ministries like Share and Start Younger. Last year, our first year as a nonprofit, we were surviving. We were month to month praying and strategizing about how to cover our expenses and meet payroll. And by God's grace and the generosity of a few men, we made it.

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What we would really like to do is be able to take our attention off of surviving and on to thriving and putting time, energy, creativity, and work into things that don't exist yet.

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So our goal for the end of the year 2025 is to raise that$50,000 base. This will give us a really strong foundation for the future of Husband Material. There are multiple ways to give. You can pay via check, credit card, debit card, Apple Pay, Google Pay, PayPal, Cash App, or through a donor-advised fund at husbandmaterial.com slash give. Please note that monthly gifts are preferred. Think$8 per month instead of$100 as a one-time gift, because this helps us predict how our budget is going to work for the year. So while one-time gifts are welcome, monthly recurring gifts are preferred. They will allow us to plan effectively and hopefully to be able to expand. So these are the two ways you can support Husband Material Ministries in this new direction. Pray for us. Go to husbandmaterial.comslash pray to get newsletter updates on how you can continue to pray, as well as praise God for when those prayers are answered. And you can go to husbandmaterial.com slash give to give financially. Thank you, thank you, thank you for your support. Without you, none of this would be possible.

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And the best part of Husband Material is you. I'm excited, I'm nervous, and I'm hopeful that we can change brains, heal hearts, and save relationships earlier than ever by helping people share and start recovery younger and never forgetting and always remembering that you are God's beloved son, and you he is well placed.