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Welcome to the Husband Material podcast, where we help Christian men outgrow porn. Why? So you can change your brain, heal your heart and save your relationship. My name is Drew Boa and I'm here to show you how let's go. Today's episode on triggers was recorded live at the recent HMA in a day workshop. We edited that down to give you the teaching here, so that you can understand what's going on in your brain and body when you get triggered, when you are feeling sexually tempted to go back to porn or masturbation with fantasy or any other unwanted sexual behavior. What if you could turn those moments from threats into opportunities for transformation and healing? That's what you're going to learn today. It's called the floss method and, man, this is one of the most powerful tools I've ever developed. Then, later this week, we're coming out with an extra bonus episode which will show you what it looks like to use the floss method with a real situation. So stay tuned for part two and enjoy.

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This workshop is a taste of Husband Material Academy, the all-in-one program for Christian men outgrowing porn. It gives you the individual coaching, the group, coaching, the community and my entire video course walking you through every step of achieving lasting freedom from porn. So if you go to joinhmacom, you can enroll now. We have a 60-day guarantee so that if you have no intention of paying for HMA and you join and you ask for a refund within 60 days I'm totally cool with that You'll get all of your money back. We want to help men heal and HMA is the best way. We know how to do that. So you can go to joinhmacom the doors are open. Here's what you can expect today. I'm going to lead you into action, because we learn by doing so. You're not just going to be sitting back passively. You're probably going to want a notebook or something to type on or some way to take notes here. I'm not providing a lot of worksheets. Those are available in Husband Material Academy. I'm just going to be walking you through this process step by step. Each one of these sessions will go through part of the HMA course. Session one is called Transform your Triggers. Transform your triggers.

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How old were you when you first encountered porn? Let me know in the chat 9, 10, 11, 12, second grade young, right? Some of you are saying older, and that's okay too, and really, when I use the word porn a lot of times, that's me using a word that can encompass a wide variety of sexual experiences, including masturbation to fantasy, including maybe sexually acting out with another person. When did that all start for you? For the vast majority of us, we did not get on this sexual cycle as men. It all started when we were boys, and that is why everything at Husband Material comes back to the boy. That is why everything at Husband Material comes back to the boy. You have to heal the boy, to free the man. How old were you when this started to become an issue in your life and what was going on in your life at that time? Remember when you were that little boy or that teenager. What was happening for you Emotionally, what was happening for you relationally? There's a story. Our sexuality is always connected to our unique stories. Imagine yourself at that age. Picture yourself when you were going through those things.

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How do you feel toward that boy? In one word, put this in the chat how do you feel toward the boy who was first exploited by porn or who first encountered sexual arousal in a secret way? How do you feel toward him? Disgusted, I feel sad. I feel shame, heartbroken, compassion, grief. I see a lot of you guys saying you feel sad. Yeah, I feel love, I feel frustrated, feel protective of him. I think he's a sissy.

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Such a wide variety of responses. Some of you might be angry at that kid. When I was processing this with my 12 year old self, I wanted to kill him. I wish he didn't exist. I wanted to annihilate this boy. At least a part of me wanted to. And however you feel toward him is valid. Maybe you feel distant toward him, maybe you feel disappointed in him. Remember, all parts of you are welcome here. This might be the most important thing. I say all day your freedom from pornography and unwanted sexual behavior depends on your relationship with that boy and how you treat him and how you feel about him, because porn may have been the safest place in his life. Porn may have been the deepest connection to his heart. Porn may have been more trustworthy than any other person.

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And for you to heal, for you to detach from porn, you need to become someone who can attach to the boy instead of porn and replace it. You need to learn how to listen to him, you need to learn how to love him and you need to learn how to lead him away from porn, which is his sexual abuser. And you need to become the person he always needed but didn't have. Some of you may still feel like that little boy. The truth is, you are not him, but he is a part of you and today you're going to learn how to heal that boy, how to get to know him and, ultimately, how to grow up into a sexually, spiritually, emotionally mature man of God. That's what this is about, because when you feel the urge to use porn or masturbate to fantasy, that little boy is coming up. He's screaming for attention. He is not the problem, but he is the one who's often in the driver's seat controlling things when you find yourself pulled into that cycle to sexually act out. So it's not the mature, adult, rational part of you that struggles with porn. It's a much younger, more emotional, vulnerable part of you. It's not your logical left brain, it's your right brain, which doesn't have a sense of time. You can feel like I'm that little boy again In this session.

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Transform your Triggers. You are going to learn what's happening in your brain. What exactly does it mean that that little boy is showing up? It's not just a new age idea, it's neuroscience. It's called implicit memory. Implicit memory is re-experiencing something as if it's happening again. So when I'm feeling lonely, for example, it's not just a 32-year-old loneliness, it's a two-year-old loneliness or a 12-year-old loneliness. Sometimes our emotions don't age and we get stuck in the past, and that's what happens Our sexual development gets stunted. What we're doing now in Husband Material Academy is finding those places where we got stuck and resuming the process that got interrupted.

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So here's what you need to do ultimately in order to be free from porn you need to learn how to regulate without it. Porn is not ultimately your problem, it's your solution. That's why I say porn is a pacifier, and so if you find yourself in pain emotionally, it could be a low-level pain, not too much to deal with, pretty easy to manage, or it can be a pain that feels intolerable, like I can't deal with this right now. That's when porn has power over you. It's the pacifier to relieve pain. Also, sometimes we experience an incredible amount of pleasure. Some person is not just sexually attractive, but they feel irresistible. A specific type of porn doesn't just seem oh you know, that's interesting but it's fascinating and it has a grip on you. It has a magnetic pull. When you find yourself in intolerable emotional pain or irresistible sexual pleasure, that's how you know you're being triggered.

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A trigger is any event that creates an automatic reaction. We can't control the triggers, but we can control what we do with them. We can choose how to respond when we're triggered. In this session, you're going to learn how to respond to your triggers instead of react to your triggers. This is going to be an exercise taken from Husband Material Academy, unit 2, called the Floss Method. I'm going to teach you how to transform your triggers from enemies that cause you to sexually act out into opportunities to heal, to grow, learn about yourself. And this exercise and this tool I'm going to teach you is called the floss method.

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I don't know how you feel about flossing your teeth. Personally, I dislike it. I much prefer brushing because we can just stay on the surface level. I don't have to go into those deep places, and most porn recovery is just at the surface level. It's not getting down into the deep, dark, hidden places where things are stuck. That's what flossing does. When you floss, you access the deeper, hidden, darker places where food might be stuck in between your teeth. In the same way, the floss method allows you to go into the deep, darker places in your brain and find what is hidden in there, what is driving you, even if you're not aware of it, so that you can take it out into the light and so that it doesn't get infected and so that it doesn't create more problems.

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Here's the FLOSS method. Floss stands for F-L-O-S-S, and I'm going to take you through it. This is part of the HMA course I'm teaching you right now. The F in FLOSS stands for fear. The F in FLOSS stands for fear.

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My favorite college professor once taught me that underneath every sin there is a fear. I think he's right. But I'm not talking about fear as an emotion. I'm talking about it as a bodily reaction, and there are five different types of fear reactions in your body Fight, flight, fawn, freeze and flop. There's probably more that I keep discovering as I learn about these things.

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When you find yourself having the urge or compulsion to sexually act out, there is some kind of fear that you are experiencing, because if you weren't afraid of anything, you'd be fine, you wouldn't need to act out, you wouldn't need to fantasize. If you're able to tolerate the sensations in your body, you can let them in, let them pass, but there's something that you're afraid of, there's something that you're avoiding, there's something that just feels intolerable or irresistible. So I'm going to put up on the screen a summary of these different fear reactions. Up on the screen a summary of these different fear reactions, and I want you to think about the most recent time when you were triggered, when you were feeling the need to use porn or to sexually act out and identify how your body was reacting. You may have multiple reactions here. So you see, the fight response is that feeling of the need to power up, frustrated. It's that aggressive energy, whereas the flight response is also very, very overwhelming. But it's not I need to power up, it's I need to get away. There's an anxiety. It's like, oh, I'm going to run away from these feelings. I'm going to run away from this situation because I don't want to deal with it.

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The fawn response is one that's often overlooked. It's the sense of I just need to please this person, I just need to get on their good side, I need to get in their good book, I have to make sure that they like me. I can't tolerate them disliking me, needing someone's approval, needing someone's affirmation, anxiously adjusting myself, bending over backwards to try to be good enough or meet the demands that are being placed on me. The freeze response I just can't, I can't. And this one is also like very charged up, but it's frozen, you're immobilized, you're like a deer in the headlights. Flop is also immobilized, but in this one, instead of, instead of powering up, we shut down. So you know what? I just give up, numb, collapsed, disconnected.

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The flop response is the one that most often precedes a relapse into porn. When fight, flight, fawn and freeze are just not working or can't take it anymore, we resort to flop. When our brain is overloaded, when our system is overloaded, it shuts down. That's when porn has the most power over us. So I want to check in with you guys, when you are most likely to sexually act out, what's happening in your body?

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I see a lot of guys saying flop. That is the most common one that comes right before acting out. Acting out can be a way of trying to feel something exciting after feeling nothing, or it can be a way of trying to feel nothing after being overwhelmed. Elvis says unfortunately, I'm a master of all these, and actually I would say fortunately, you have all these abilities Because, especially when we were boys, we needed these. We needed these different things in order to survive.

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If you're unsafe, you need to get away. Someone's attacking you, maybe you need to be aggressive. If something's overwhelming, maybe the most wise thing you can do is just to stay still and freeze. And if there's nothing you can do is just to stay still and freeze. And if there's nothing you can do about what's happening in your life, the most brilliant survival strategy is to flop. Go somewhere else in your head to find another world better than the one you're in. That's the F of floss. What's happening in my body? Notice those fear reactions.

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And then, secondly, the L stands for lie. In those moments when you are triggered to sexually act out, what is the lie that you believe about yourself in those moments? Now I hesitate to use the word lie because oftentimes that thought going through my head was actually true at one point. For example, if the lie is I don't belong, well, maybe there was a time when I really didn't belong and that actually was true. The point is, when you feel that in your body, what is the thought? What is the message that comes with it? Because there's always some kind of lie.

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My college professor told me, under every sin is a fear and under every fear is a lie. So tell me some of these lies that come up for you guys. The lie is that I'm bad. No one likes me. Things will never change. I don't fit in, I'm evil, I'm alone, I'm worthless. I can't change. What's the use? I deserve to be punished. Oh, I'm not good enough, not worthy. I'm too old to change. I'm stupid. I don't deserve my wife. I'm no good. I'm abandoned. I'm defeated. I'm incompetent. I'm not man enough, I'm not capable of handling this. I saw someone else say underneath every lie is a hurt. That's pretty good.

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We're getting down below the surface. We're getting to what's really going on in our hearts, because the sexual urges are not just about your penis, they're about your brain, they're about your heart, they're about your body. That's trying to tell you something. Now, why would your brain be going into these fight, flight or freeze fawn or flop mode? Why would it be telling you these lies? There's a very, very, very good reason Because your brain wants to help you heal. It wants to help you heal. But as long as you're just taking that and trying to deal with it sexually, you're going to stay stuck. You have to find out what is my body trying to tell me, what is my brain trying to tell me and where do I need to heal? This F and L step sets you up for one of the biggest breakthroughs you'll ever have in recovery.

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The O of FLOSS stands for origin story. Every trigger tells a story. They're not random. They are there for a reason. We may not know what that reason is, but the more we learn about these things, they always make sense. They really do. And the way that you figure out. Okay, what is the story behind this trigger? How is my brain trying to help me heal? It's trying to point out where you've been wounded. It's trying to point out where you've been hurt. It's trying to point out what is going on within me that I need to see, that I need to feel.

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Here is the question that allows you to find out what your origin story is. We're on the letter O of floss. Ask yourself this question. O of floss. Ask yourself this question when have I felt this way before? And I'm going to invite you to think back to that F fear reaction in your body. What did that feel like? What was the lie that goes with it? And when have you felt that way before? For example, you feel flight and you feel like I'm not good enough.

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Okay, when have you felt that way before? Have you felt the need to escape or run away, feeling like you're not good enough? And just open your mind up to whatever comes to you? Don't think too hard about it, just become aware. This is a way of taking your implicit memories, or your body memories, and bringing them into the light, making them explicit memories that you can work with, that you can change, because as long as you're not aware of what's going on, you can't change it. As long as you don't know what's happening, you can't do anything about it.

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All right, I want to give you some time and space right now to ask yourself okay, this feeling in my body and this lie that I believe about myself, when have I felt that way before? You might want to write it down. You guys are doing such good work right now. This is how you find that little boy. This is how you discover where you need to heal. This is how you go deeper. This is how you change your brain and heal your heart. Now there's more complexity to it. This is just one tool, one way of getting into the depths rather than just staying on the surface, and these are simple questions you can ask yourself when you're emotionally struggling or you're sexually tempted. What's happening in my body, what are the thoughts that go with those feelings, and when have I felt this way before? Now there's value in naming a one-sentence version of when I have felt that way before, and there's a ton of value in writing out the bigger story of those events and experiences and sharing them with other men. That's what we do in Husband Material Academy every week on Trigger Tuesday and later during the session, we're going to be showing you what it looks like to actually process these stories.

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Once you have that origin story, you have an opportunity to change your relationship with it and to change your relationship with that boy and sexually acting out. Essentially, what you're choosing to do is ignore the boy, neglect the boy, choose to shut him up rather than listen to the story that he wants to tell you. Many of our sexual recovery strategies amount to fight, flight or freeze right. Like you know, try to fight against my sexual temptations or just run away from them, or try to, you know, ignore them, pretend they're not there. What I'm asking you to do is something very different from all those fear reactions, instead of fighting or fleeing your sexual thoughts and feelings. I'm asking you to face them, face the stories underneath them, and then to respond in love instead of fear. Perfect love casts out fear.

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Now, how do you respond in love when these memories come up for you? How do you respond? With kindness, curiosity and compassion rather than condemnation, criticism, putting a little sexual solution onto it. That's what the first S of floss is about. So, f-l-o-s-s, the first S is sadness.

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Sadness, many of you said you feel sad toward that boy. When you're sad, your heart opens up. You can't be sad about something or someone without loving what you have lost. So when you allow yourself to experience sadness, you're allowing yourself to love the boy, to love this part of you that feels weak, that feels not good enough, that feels alone. Sadness can be interchanged with grief, mourning, lament. Jesus said blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. If you want to experience the comfort and kindness of God, you must allow yourself to grieve the ways that you have been harmed, you've been wounded. So in the moment you discover that origin story, you may feel the need to distance yourself from it. You may wish that it never happened.

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I want to invite you to see if you can try on a little bit of sadness and I want you to see if you can enter into what that boy is feeling and maybe just take a moment to imagine him again, to imagine that little boy, maybe in the story that came up for you or when he first encountered porn, and I want you to picture him in your mind. Can you see him? And if you can look into his eyes, okay, when you look into his eyes, what do you see? When you listen to his heart, what do you hear? Can you allow yourself to feel what he may have felt? You guys are saying?

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He's so lonely, he's powerless, he's confused, confused. I see his uncertainty. He doesn't know who he is. I see longing. He just wants to be loved and accepted. I feel his anger. Good, he's hurt, he's confused, he's lost. He wants to be led. Yes, yes, I see him saying I need you, yes, and today he has you. He has an adult who loves him and cares for him, and that's you. He's afraid, he's in pain, he wants a guide. He deeply wants to be a good kid. So this is what I'm talking about the fourth step of flaws Allowing yourself to open your heart in sadness. This is essential, absolutely essential, for healing.

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And in Husband Material Academy we have you spend time with a picture of yourself as a boy, and that's one of the themes throughout the course is coming back to him. And there's not just one boy, really, there's many. It's more like an orphanage. You've got your infant self, your three-year-old self, your six-year-old, your nine-year-old, your 12-year-old, your 18-year-old. You know All of them are within you. You're not just how old you are, you are every age you've ever been, and our goal in doing this work is basically to be the age that you really are and to care for these younger parts.

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Now, the last S of FLOSS stands for surrender. S of FLOSS stands for surrender, specifically surrendering to the truth. So remember, there was a lie that you identified earlier. After you allow yourself to experience sadness, to enter into the pain of your story, the suffering, the grief, then finally you have a chance to speak the truth. And this is not speaking the truth in a hostile way, in a militant way, to try to correct or fix what you're feeling, but rather to surrender to it. So, instead of fighting an exhausting battle, you're befriending this boy and surrendering to what God says about you, surrendering to who you really are. So I'm going to go through the whole FLOSS acronym one more time for you. Floss stands for Fear, lie, origin Story, sadness and Surrender, surrender. This last step, surrender, asks you to declare a truth. It's probably the exact opposite of your lie. So what truth will you choose to believe? What truth will you choose to believe about yourself instead of the lie? Put it in the chat.

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Usually it's some kind of like I am, or I can statement I am loved and accepted. I am worthy. I am loved by God. I am safe. I am chosen. I belong. God will not throw me away. I am seen, heard and loved. I am made in God's image. I am clean and pure. I am awesome. Yes, I am loved and forgiven. I am strong. I can handle my emotions. I don't have to run away from them. I have a father. God loves me and wants me. I am accepted. I am not defective. I am a man. I am God's beloved son In me. He is well-pleased. Woo-hoo, awesome. I am valued. The past does not have to direct my future. I am worth loving. I am as much of a man as others. I am a treasure. I have the power in me that raised Christ from the dead. I'm capable, not powerless. Guys, this is so good.

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Notice how this affects you, because sometimes we can use these truths in a way that is actually bypassing our feelings. But in the floss method, you're not getting to this last step until the very end, until you've allowed yourself to go deep into your brain, deep into your heart, find what's in there, bring it out to the light. And now, when you speak the truth, it means so much more and it can set you free when you bring more of yourself to that truth, more of your story to that truth. So this is one tool that can really help you outgrow porn. It transforms your triggers because now, when you get those really strong sexual thoughts and feelings or those emotional reactions that just feel overwhelming, or you just want to numb out and escape life, now you can interrupt that process and do something different. Those triggers are like time machines. They take you back in time, but instead you can actually like okay, hop in the time machine, see where it's taking you and then recenter yourself in the present. Another way to say it is that every trigger is a trailhead that can lead you on a journey. That journey is about healing. Believe it or not, temptation can actually become a gift because it can teach you so much more about yourself and allow you to experience the truth in a way that maybe you wouldn't if you weren't tempted, way that maybe you wouldn't if you weren't tempted. I want to acknowledge that when you are really triggered in the moment, your access to the thinking part of your brain, the prefrontal cortex, responsible for moral judgment and impulse control, is compromised. Your access to the thinking part of your brain is compromised, so you probably won't think to yourself oh, I should use the floss method. So it's helpful to have some shorthand tools that are a little bit easier to just plug in than the floss method, which is a lot bigger process, as you can see. You know this could take half an hour to really go through the whole thing.

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I want to give you some shorthand tools instead of just the floss method. One of them is to simply say to yourself hello, childhood, I'm feeling unworthy. Hello, childhood, wow, I am really, really drawn to that sexual person or to that type of porn right now. Hello, childhood. And that's a way of establishing that connection with the little boy, so that the little boy is not controlling you. He's in relationship with you. He's connected to you. That's where it all starts, so that instead of being aroused, you can be with your arousal. So instead of being anxious, you can be with your anxiety. Say hello, childhood, that's a little tool you can use. I call my inner child, little Drew, so I'll say hello, little Drew. Hi, little Drew, what's going on? What do you want to tell me right now? What do you need me to know? Try it out, see how it affects you.

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I have another tool that I teach in HMA called BOA. I realize it's a little bit arrogant to name a tool after myself, but I do that so that you can remember it, and I'm putting a link into the chat here where you can watch a free video lesson from Husband Material Academy at another time, and it is unit three, lesson two, I believe, maybe lesson three and you can get it at husbandmaterialcom slash HMA dash preview. And this will give you just this video of the HMA course with the BOA method, which is something that is a lot easier to use in the moment. I mean, floss is bigger, boa is smaller. If you want to watch that whole video, go to the link husbandmaterialcom slash HMA dash preview. You now have some new tools in your tool belt that you didn't have at the beginning of this call. You got the floss method, you got BOA, which you might want to check out later, and then you got Hello, childhood Triggers do not have to be tyrants.

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Triggers can be trailheads for healing and learning and growing. The floss method empowers you to do that. What evil has used, god can use for good. Evil has used your sexuality to harm you and others. God can use your sexual thoughts and feelings to show you so much about yourself and to love you in a way that changes things, in a way that frees you from the power of pornography.

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I'm going to open up some time for Q&A. We are going to take a little five-minute break for Q&A here and then we are going to do a demo where we process one of my personal stories that's very connected to a lot of my emotional triggers and sexual triggers and that will be featuring a few of our other coaches. All right, I'm going to see the questions here. Where does the fear of loneliness fall? That sounds like flight right, running away from loneliness, perhaps.

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How can fawning lead to a relapse? Okay, let's say you have a friend or a girlfriend or a potential girlfriend who you are obsessing about. You can't stop thinking about. You know, does this person actually want to be my friend? Does she like me? Does she not like me? And you just can't stop thinking about it and you're trying so hard to be the person that you think they will like. That is exhausting, that is extremely stressful, that is a fear reaction. That is very natural, yet it's unsustainable and eventually that's going to lead you to a place where you just flop, you just give up. I can't handle this anymore. And you turn to some kind of counterfeit or some kind of symbolic sexual version of what you were wanting from that friend, or from that girlfriend, or from your wife perhaps. So that's an example of how fawning can lead to a relapse.

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I see some of you guys saying, oh my goodness, that hits home about the fawning right. Yep, that might be why I'm struggling with acting out as I'm approaching a relationship that's getting serious. Exactly right, we're just kind of skimming over the surface of this, dan says. I'm struggling to figure out what my lie is. How can I dig deeper into this? Would definitely recommend digging deeper with one of our certified husband material coaches or husband material academy. But even if you don't have the lie, you can still ask okay, what is my body experiencing, what emotions are coming up, and when have I felt those emotions before? When have I felt that way before? And oftentimes, as you look at the story, the story will then show you the lie. You know, the story will show you oh, I thought I was a monster because my dad called me a monster. And so it doesn't always work in the order of F-L-O-S-S. Yet that's a helpful structure.

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Josh says that I mentioned we should face our temptations and triggers, not fight or flee from them. Curious about how to reconcile facing temptation with fleeing from temptation, as Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 6.18. Okay, fleeing temptation is extremely important, like in the moment, but you can't keep that up forever. You can't just constantly be fleeing. It's unsustainable. So at some point when you have re-established safety, when you're separated from porn or separated from the person that you're tempted to act out with, then you can face it in a safe environment, get out of the tempting situation and then, in a safe environment, face it. And when I say face it, I'm not saying, you know, watch the porn or look at the person. I'm saying face the part of you that feels the temptation, and we'll get more into that in the next session. But you need to not focus on the sexual stimulation itself, but focus on what is happening within me that wants to go there and that changes everything Josh says.

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How can I overcome not believing the truth about myself? Session three and four we're going to do that because oftentimes we know the truth in our head but we don't feel it in our bodies, we don't feel it in our hearts, we don't experience it. So you actually need to experience the truth, not just intellectually assent to the information. The truth has to hit you physically and emotionally to make a difference and to liberate you from the chains of pornography. And you're going to see exactly how that happens later today.

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If you're feeling anxiety or if you're feeling shame or apathy about this, thank you for being willing to become aware of those feelings, to mention them. I would strongly recommend getting more support to process this. Hma is one way you can do that. Come in the chat and let me know how was this first teaching for you? Awesome, okay, great stuff, encouraging, a little overwhelming? Absolutely yeah. And that's why we're not just hosting this workshop today and then leaving you alone. We're giving you a way to continue with HMA.

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Some of it doesn't resonate, that's okay. Thank you for being honest about that. These are tools that are not going to resonate with everyone. I'm giving you some different options so that you're more empowered. This is practical. This is profound. You got to dig into your struggles without shame. Awesome Frank says I've had many therapy sessions and no one has ever addressed my younger self. Man, it breaks my heart. That's why we're doing this. Dave says I'm finally getting a sense of what inner child work is really about. Awesome Michael says super helpful, I can implement this immediately. Okay, great Thanks for watching. Come back for part two of this episode, where you will hear what the floss method looks like in my life. I'm going to share a vulnerable story that's deeply connected to my sexual and emotional triggers, and you'll see what it looks like to process all of that in a way that might bring you to tears and it might deepen your healing. If you love this and you want to continue, go to joinhmacom and always remember you are God's beloved son. In you. He is well pleased.